I'm 99% sure I can be there...please join me!
On Thursday May 25th at 3:00 pm in Oakland City Hall, Hearing Room 2, there will be a public hearing to determine if Peter can continue to provide live music at Café Van Kleef.
Peter’s new landlords have been trying to stop him from giving local artists a place to play for the past few months. The landlords are expected to appear at the hearing and send letters opposing the music scene at CVK. This would not only hurt the Café, but the musicians that regularly play there.
If you want to be heard you are welcome at the public hearing. If you can’t make it but would like to support there being art and entertainment in the Arts and Entertainment district, you can call or send an e-mail to Barb Killey, the hearing officer that will be deciding whether Oakland will allow live music to continue at CVK. If you plan on coming you might want to let her know so that they have a big enough room reserved.
Please send comments to:
Barbara Killey
City of Oakland Hearing Officer
510.238.2257
bkilley@oaklandnet.com
An related article from the East Bay Express:
"Saloon guy" Peter Van Kleef fights for his bar's survival.
By Will Harper Article Published Apr 19, 2006 www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues...er.html
For nearly three years, Cafe Van Kleef has played a proud role in the hipsterization of uptown Oakland with its funky art and funky jazz performances. Now, the future of the little bar that could is in doubt: Peter Van Kleef says his new landlords have spent the past few months trying to kick him out, citing trumped-up reasons. "I'm so tired of this," he sighs. "I'm a saloon guy and that's all I want to do. I don't really want to deal with this."
"This" all started after a consortium of eight partnerships bought the building at 1621 Telegraph Avenue last fall. Van Kleef says things quickly soured during his initial sit-down with some of the owners. According to Van Kleef, they wanted him to give them his basement and mezzanine space. He was willing to do so only if he could get something in return — like the space next door, so he could expand. Ever since he resisted their demand, Van Kleef says they've been trying to get rid of him.
But that won't be easy: The bar owner has a 25-year lease, which he negotiated with his previous landlord. So, he says, the new landlords began raising dubious allegations showing him to be in violation of that lease. They claimed, for instance, that patrons were smoking inside the bar, which he denies. Last month, they sent him an eviction notice for hosting live-music shows without the cabaret license required from the city. As it turns out, Van Kleef was indeed violating city rules, although the bar owner says that no one made an issue of it until the new owners came along.
One of the owners, Stephen DeJesse, denies that he or his partners have been waging a campaign to get rid of the bar. DeJesse says everyone knew when they bought the building that Van Kleef, with his superlong lease, would come with the package. "He's more of an asset than a detriment to this area," DeJesse allows.
DeJesse says the building owners have been trying to get Van Kleef to address various safety hazards, particularly fire risks like bad electrical wiring that is not up to code. In a March 31 letter to City Administrator Deborah Edgerly, DeJesse expressed concerns that the pub's live shows attract large crowds even though the place has only one exit. DeJesse invoked the specter of the Great White concert in Rhode Island — where a fire killed 100 people — as something that could repeat itself at Cafe Van Kleef.
Van Kleef's lawyer Thomas Ostly questions DeJesse's purported safety concerns, noting that Van Kleef has never been cited by the city for code violations. The lawyer also dismisses any comparisons to the Rhode Island tragedy, which resulted from pyrotechnics fired off at a heavy metal show. The jazz musicians who play at Van Kleef typically don't blow up shit during their performances.
Ostly says the owners have backed off on their last eviction threat. In the meantime, Van Kleef has applied for a cabaret license from the city so he can keep offering live music. Good thing for him that he has friends in high places: Cafe Van Kleef happens to be one of Mayor Jerry Brown's favorite neighborhood watering holes. Last year, for instance, he spontaneously showed up during an Express bash there. Brown's press secretary, Gil Duran, also has been known to stop by for a cocktail once in a while and has clearly taken Van Kleef's side of the landlord-tenant dispute: "They're acting like Peter's stockpiling WMDs or harboring al-Qaeda," he says.
On Thursday May 25th at 3:00 pm in Oakland City Hall, Hearing Room 2, there will be a public hearing to determine if Peter can continue to provide live music at Café Van Kleef.
Peter’s new landlords have been trying to stop him from giving local artists a place to play for the past few months. The landlords are expected to appear at the hearing and send letters opposing the music scene at CVK. This would not only hurt the Café, but the musicians that regularly play there.
If you want to be heard you are welcome at the public hearing. If you can’t make it but would like to support there being art and entertainment in the Arts and Entertainment district, you can call or send an e-mail to Barb Killey, the hearing officer that will be deciding whether Oakland will allow live music to continue at CVK. If you plan on coming you might want to let her know so that they have a big enough room reserved.
Please send comments to:
Barbara Killey
City of Oakland Hearing Officer
510.238.2257
bkilley@oaklandnet.com
An related article from the East Bay Express:
"Saloon guy" Peter Van Kleef fights for his bar's survival.
By Will Harper Article Published Apr 19, 2006 www.eastbayexpress.com/Issues...er.html
For nearly three years, Cafe Van Kleef has played a proud role in the hipsterization of uptown Oakland with its funky art and funky jazz performances. Now, the future of the little bar that could is in doubt: Peter Van Kleef says his new landlords have spent the past few months trying to kick him out, citing trumped-up reasons. "I'm so tired of this," he sighs. "I'm a saloon guy and that's all I want to do. I don't really want to deal with this."
"This" all started after a consortium of eight partnerships bought the building at 1621 Telegraph Avenue last fall. Van Kleef says things quickly soured during his initial sit-down with some of the owners. According to Van Kleef, they wanted him to give them his basement and mezzanine space. He was willing to do so only if he could get something in return — like the space next door, so he could expand. Ever since he resisted their demand, Van Kleef says they've been trying to get rid of him.
But that won't be easy: The bar owner has a 25-year lease, which he negotiated with his previous landlord. So, he says, the new landlords began raising dubious allegations showing him to be in violation of that lease. They claimed, for instance, that patrons were smoking inside the bar, which he denies. Last month, they sent him an eviction notice for hosting live-music shows without the cabaret license required from the city. As it turns out, Van Kleef was indeed violating city rules, although the bar owner says that no one made an issue of it until the new owners came along.
One of the owners, Stephen DeJesse, denies that he or his partners have been waging a campaign to get rid of the bar. DeJesse says everyone knew when they bought the building that Van Kleef, with his superlong lease, would come with the package. "He's more of an asset than a detriment to this area," DeJesse allows.
DeJesse says the building owners have been trying to get Van Kleef to address various safety hazards, particularly fire risks like bad electrical wiring that is not up to code. In a March 31 letter to City Administrator Deborah Edgerly, DeJesse expressed concerns that the pub's live shows attract large crowds even though the place has only one exit. DeJesse invoked the specter of the Great White concert in Rhode Island — where a fire killed 100 people — as something that could repeat itself at Cafe Van Kleef.
Van Kleef's lawyer Thomas Ostly questions DeJesse's purported safety concerns, noting that Van Kleef has never been cited by the city for code violations. The lawyer also dismisses any comparisons to the Rhode Island tragedy, which resulted from pyrotechnics fired off at a heavy metal show. The jazz musicians who play at Van Kleef typically don't blow up shit during their performances.
Ostly says the owners have backed off on their last eviction threat. In the meantime, Van Kleef has applied for a cabaret license from the city so he can keep offering live music. Good thing for him that he has friends in high places: Cafe Van Kleef happens to be one of Mayor Jerry Brown's favorite neighborhood watering holes. Last year, for instance, he spontaneously showed up during an Express bash there. Brown's press secretary, Gil Duran, also has been known to stop by for a cocktail once in a while and has clearly taken Van Kleef's side of the landlord-tenant dispute: "They're acting like Peter's stockpiling WMDs or harboring al-Qaeda," he says.
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 12:31 PMI can't make it, but will send an email. What a bunch of hooey! The City of Oakland talks about wanting to develop and revitalize Downtown and Peter does a great job at it and is rewarded by having to deal with this? Ridiculous. -
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 12:38 PMYeah, who the hell wants to live in a city that has bupkus to do at night.
May as well live somewhere cheaper.
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 1:40 PMWord. Before you know it, every new condo will come with its own Starbuck's in the kitchen. Sheesh. -
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Mon, May 22, 2006 - 3:39 PMHere's my email...feel free to lift stuff/get ideas from it.
Please do support the Queef!
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email to: bkilley@oaklandnet.com
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Dear Ms. Killey,
I'm writing to you in support of Cafe van Kleef's bid for a live music license. Peter van Kleef and his nightclub has been a key player in the development of downtown Oakland as a destination.
The charm of neighborhood places like van Kleef is what keeps me from moving to San Francisco. Oakland needs magnets like this should it hope to continue on its path to revitalization.
Please don't let this Oakland gem fall by the wayside. We need places to go at night to gather, socialize and listen to world-class music.
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Tue, May 23, 2006 - 8:15 PMThank You Ali for the Tribe, and everyone for your support.
Signed,
Richard,
A behind-the-scene employee and sometimes sound person for Van Kleef's -
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Wed, May 24, 2006 - 10:32 AMI'll be at the hearing---very nice, supportive boss.
Maybe hit Van Kleef afterwards for a couple of drinks???
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Wed, May 24, 2006 - 2:57 PMTo be clear, the City of Oakland is not trying to shut down the Cafe. The landlords are trying to shut down the Cafe.
This is part of a routine process for getting a cabaret permit. I encourage you all to attend and let your opinions be known.
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Thu, May 25, 2006 - 10:49 PMThings looks good. Hearing went well.
Weird though...before the CVK bit there were all these applicants for "massage therapist" permits. Hmm. (Definitely seemed to be more of the nudge-nudge-wink-wink type of massage.) -
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Fri, May 26, 2006 - 12:35 PMWell, hopefully this story will have a happy ending....
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the "other" permits maqybe a bit more on the up and up than one might gues..
Sat, May 27, 2006 - 3:55 PMAt least one of those massage permits was for Piedmont Springs on Piedmont ave between the Wells Fargo and Catos.
www.piedmontsprings.com/
That is a VERY classy place where I have been a client for 17 years.
No wierdness, just nice tubs and very good massage therapists how have helped me with my back problem since 1998.
Now there is a rumour about a GUY therapist who gave his women clients a bit of an extra hand ... I suppose he is gone now.
Some of those Asian girls looked a bit too young and too hot, but they were working in beauty shops.
Having lived in China I learned that there is a beauty shop form of facial and general massage that is also just as straight forwared as Tui Na or Tui Nei Chang or any of the more known types. Also classy and nothing to do with sex.
That said, I still had my suspicions about at least half of those permits.
Makes smoking in the scaffolding outside of Peter's place seem mild in comparison.
Great hearing, I think it went Peter's way. NOW he has to comply with every damn dot on the requirments.
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Sun, May 28, 2006 - 11:14 AM"That is a VERY classy place where I have been a client for 17 years."
Oh....my....whenever I see the word "classy" used in regard to women, it usually means that they're hookers who dress well and won't embarrass the exec taking her out on the town by cracking her gum...
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Re: the "other" permits maqybe a bit more on the up and up than one might gues..
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 11:54 PMWell David, I am sorry that is what a CLASSY place means for you.
What it means at the Piedmont Hot Springs is anything but prostitution.
Their massage school diplomas decorate a far wall and the whole place is anything but sleezy.
It is very nice. I feel fine taking my family there.
You David do not seem to know anything about Piedmont Hot Springs,
Your contribution seems to be only be about what you see when you see the word classy.
Makes me wonder where you look, but it is thin reason to associate the place with hookers.
Seems like unfair treatment of my comments, and you do not know me, and that place, which you do not know. -
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Tue, May 30, 2006 - 10:06 AMLet's skip the infighting about semantics, and get back to the HOORAY part of:
"Great hearing, I think it went Peter's way."
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Re: Thu 5/25 3pm hearing in Oakland to save Van Kleef!!! (if you can't make it, please email instead)
Tue, July 18, 2006 - 9:34 PMSo, any updates?